Meeting started on time at 7:30PM. Vice President Hensley was absent.
The 08-09 school calendar was handed out prior to the meeting which had some notable differences compared to what was relayed at the April 21, 2008 meeting. During the first Community Corner, Ms. Jen Allen asked about Spring Break, which now is not really a week long Spring Break at all. As it currently stands, Spring Break will be April 6-10 and Easter Monday, April 13. HOWEVER, the first two days of Spring Break are now the first and second SNOW MAKE-UP DAYS. Ms. Allen was asking about those parents who want to plan a week-long vacation for that time. Dr. Lesky had a couple things to say about that:
1) In the 31 years he’s been in the district, we’ve never had less than 2 snow days, so don’t plan on the full week.
2) He also stated that this “change” was the result of discussions with staff and community members who wanted it this way. What’s odd about this statement, is how there could have been discussions with community members between last Monday (4/21) and this Monday (4/28) when the preliminary schedule wasn’t even posted on the district website. In fact, it wasn’t even handed out during the last meeting. How would community members have “known” about this proposed schedule? Perhaps I’m missing something….
A budget discussion from Ms. Rischoff followed. It now appears that NASD is recommending a budget that will tax over the Act 1 index limit of 5.4%. Ms. Rischoff pointed out that NASD is allowed $3.7M in Exceptions by the state. This is the amount over the Index that can be taxed without going to a voter referendum.
I’ll have a separate post on the Act 1 Exceptions and where I think NASD is going.
Dr. Lesky mentioned that the extra 1.5% that NASD received from the state this year has “strings attached” and must be used to promote new programs (expansion of all-day KG for example). It can’t be used to pay the general bills. So they have to increase programs, of which they have around 4 options, or pay the extra $86K back to the state.
There was a somewhat lengthy discussion about the budget. Mr. Maher wanted everyone to be clear that this year’s budget was going to affect subsequent budgets down the road and that there will be trade offs between spending, the tax increase and debt restructuring.
The new Fee Schedule for NASD facility usage was presented and discussed. One item discussed was how the Nazareth Midget Wresting Club did not have to pay for mat/gym usage/practice but other clubs (for example soccer) would be expected to pay to use the grass field at BES. I think the point being made was that wrestling is indoors (using heat/lighting, etc) but the BES field is outside (essentially just grass that has to be mowed anyways). Mr. Butz wanted this to be reviewed for consistency.
NASD has hired a new Football Coach, Mr. Robert Melosky. Several questions were asked at the end of the meeting regarding this hire. One specific question was whether there was anything in Mr. Melosky’s past that would cause NASD concern. Dr. Lesky responded there was not.
The redistricting plan was again presented. Dr. Lesky has met with all the three elementary PTAs and the MS PTA to address parental/community concerns. Several concerns were brought up, but four were highlighted:
K-3 Gifted
Transportation issues IS
Longer School Day at IS
Full Day KG at ES
The K-3 gifted issue has been “somewhat” settled. No longer is the admin asking the reading specialists to take over. Now there will be one (1) gifted teacher who will split their time between all three (3) elementary schools. Personally, I don’t know how this is going to work, considering 5 days for 3 schools. Is one particular school going to get the short end of the stick? And if they instead do it as a rotation, that means the kids will never have a set schedule.
Transportation to IS has some parents concerned that kids will spend too much time on busses. Remember, the plan is to pick up the 4-6 kids at the same time as the ES kids, bus them to their ES and then transfer to another bus (or consolidate) for a trip to the IS.
Full Day KG is still being discussed. Some parents wanted the choice of FDK or traditional.
During Community Corner I had some questions/comments that came up as a result of the redistricting plan
1) Since it was stated that the “long day” at the IS was going to be broken up into manageable time periods with “plenty of outside activity”, was there any plan to provide a playground area at the IS? The 4th and 5th graders currently have a playground at their respective Elementary Schools. Admin said no. Ms. McDonald wondered “how much they would even use it”? Mr. Butz conceded that there is a lot of asphalt and that perhaps they could add some basketball courts. Again, I don’t think this was ever even considered.
2) According to the redistricting plan and costs, we are hiring two maintenance persons at a total cost of $134,244. This means that our starting maintenance person costs the district (with benefits): $67,122. A starting teacher costs the districts (with the same benefits): $62,250. I didn’t have any question, just the comment and whether the board was aware of this. I think they were not.
There was some additional questions regarding the Fee Usage Rates. A representative from the Upper Nazareth Clippers was there to ask about how much the field usage would cost. The deciding factor seems to be whether or not “non-district” kids are on the field. For example, it was asked whether the Band would be charged for BandFest because they invite other area bands to our field. Ms. Swigart said they would. The board can decide to waive the fees as they have for other organizations in the past, but it would seem that NASD is looking closer at facility usage in order to squeeze every last dollar.
Meeting adjourned around 9:15 PM.
7 comments:
Okay dont shoot me for saying this.. but how do we justify paying a maintenance man 67,000 a year? It is hard work, a tough job, i am not saying that.. but it is also a job that requires no college education or special skill.
These are the problems we are facing right now.. we overpay for everything. i have yet to hear someone say "no" we cant do that we dont have the money (with the exception of Maher).
Ross -- you seem to be up on this.. what if the voters shoot down the referendum, which in all honesty will happen.. where do we start making cuts at? Are we building a 6 million dollar pool, for a swim team that might not even exist in 2 years?
You don't pay them that amount - that is the cost to the district for the position. The old rule of thumb was 30% on top of salary, but I'm guessing it is higher today.
Brad's point was a bit different because he was comparing the cost to the district of both (as I understood his remark) a teacher and maintenance worker, and that is a surprise.
The referendum comes about once they go over the index and have no exceptions (as Brad notes will likely be in ensuing years when exceptions dip).
The trick is the people only have a choice to vote it down or up, they can't decide what gets cut.
Due to this, my guess is a political war will be waged with those in Admin and on the Board (collectively the NASD), indicating to special interests with strong and vocal support they will be first to get cut (and therefore they will encourage people to support the tax hike).
Likely suspects - sports, band, music, the arts.
In the end it will tear the community apart.
Even with supposed gambling dollars coming to those who filed, the amount received is based on your communities profile - the more wealth the less return. It will hardly offset our hikes.
This budget is very important because they are looking at having a surplus to ensure future tax hikes have the biggest revenue gain.
They will say they are forward thinking, but I wish they would have thought so much about the future prior to making some of these decisions we can't take back and must now pay for.
To your last point - if the referendum fails - everything will get cut. Brad can speak better to the deficits (as he does in the budget post, but the only way to make that amount of money up is to cut staff (it will be support and teachers first) and that will increase class size and reduce opportunities.
When that happens, lets hope there is a good, local charter school ready to open;-)
1. Is the Maintenance position year round and a longer day?
2. Since the board doesn't feel a playground is necessary at the new/old MS did they suggest alternative outdoor recreational equipment, other than bball that is? Oh and the 75K regraded soccer field...not that we have any $ to invest in the equipment anyways
field use and indoor gym or other indoor facilities use, many questions?
For any outdoor use of a school facility, such as new stadium, MS soccer fields, BES or LN soccer fileds, etc, than a modest fee for a maintenance person to be around, no extra fee should be charged to any Nazareth community club, weather it be basketball, wrestling, soccer, football, chess club, swim team, etc for an outside field.
Now if lights are to be used, say at Stadium, then a fee needs to be in place to cover extra cost for the lights. This fee would be based on the hour. An example I have heard around, such as is at Iron Lakes Soccer facility is around $75 per hour for filed use with lights.
If no lights or extra equipment is utilized, say on a Sunday Afternoon, Youth Soccer or Youth Football want to use the satdium, and it is not being used by the NASD, then it should be available, again at a nominal fee for the maintance person to be there, maybe $25/hr of use.
Now for indoor use, say gym time, or use of the new pool say for a birthday party, or a club swim team, etc... ( funny that wrestling never paid a dime ) a set fee by the hour needs to be in place to cover maintence person and electric costs etc. This needs to be figured out so it covers the costs, and not used as a money maker. Get over your issues whether the youth players are from the NASD or not.....the clubs must be from NASD, don't worry about who is playing....which the major majority of youth players are from NASD.
When the school facilities are sitting idle, and our youths can take advantage of great facilites, why not let them. Wheter it be sports, scouting, or other club, this promotes good values for our youth and the NASD should play a part.
The NASD board needs to look at the bigger picture. I know of some youth soccer team in Nazareth when they go to away games, they play on Turff, in a stadium, and the away team does not pay a dime to be there........Crest Wood HS, allows there youth soccer program to use the stadium, at no charge at all.
I believe no fee should be assesed for any use of an outdoor facility, but if you feel a maintenance person needs to be there, I think we can all live with that.
Why don't you invite all the clubs from the area, and have an open forum about this, before you jump to conclusions. How many of you board memebers have children in Youth activities? If I had to guess, I would say very little of you do.
To close, remember, elections are coming up, do the right thing.
We pay alot of taxes and will be paying a lot more
"NASD has hired a new Football Coach, Mr. Robert Melosky. Several questions were asked at the end of the meeting regarding this hire. One specific question was whether there was anything in Mr. Melosky’s past that would cause NASD concern. Dr. Lesky responded there was not."
I guess being arrested, posting bail and having to go to court don't count.
"When that happens, lets hope there is a good, local charter school ready to open;-)"
FYI-
Some parents who are dissatisfied with what is going on in Nazland have already found great alternatives for their students. Cyber charter schools could be the answer some of you are looking for.
No overcrowded classrooms, students working at their own pace and being challenged with curriculum because they aren't held to a "schedule". ( i.e., 6th or 7th grade student taking 8th grade math without having a GIEP).
If you are looking for other options, PA Leadership Charter Cyber School, is having an information night at the Nazareth Library on July 8 at 6:30pm. This is just one of for one of the 11 Cyber Schools in PA.
"When that happens, lets hope there is a good, local charter school ready to open"
Why wait for any new schools to open when there's already 11 public cybers in PA available to any PA resident tuition-free?
You can find out more about them here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PACyberSchoolers
click the link above or send an email to
PACyberSchoolers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
(if any spaces show up in the links above, remove them)
"If you are looking for other options, PA Leadership Charter Cyber School, is having an information night at the Nazareth Library on July 8 at 6:30pm."
Great school! Their website is
www.palcs.org
They also have online info sessions available now at
http://www.palcs.org/infosession.html
(again, remove any spaces)
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